Loser Pilled

I’m still thinking this morning about the “NS” fandom.

As I said yesterday, I sharply distinguish between historic National Socialism and what I see as the “NS” fandom, or what is more commonly known as wignatism in the United States. I do not conflate the two movements and see all sorts of important differences between them.

Andrew Anglin has written at length about Neo-Nazis, but I prefer to just ignore them.

1. Historic National Socialism was a German volkish movement. It was based in Germany in the 1920s, 1930s and 1940s and expired at the end of World War II. The “NS” fandom is a postwar phenomena and consists of admirers all over the world. The bulk of them are English speakers. The overwhelming majority of the fans are not Germans themselves. I’m not reacting to anyone who is German.

In much the same way, The Beatles and Rolling Stones have fans all over the world. Taylor Swift has fans all over the world. There are Trekkies and Harry Potter fans all over the world. Historic National Socialism was an ethnic based movement, but the fandom isn’t based on any one ethnicity.

2. Adolf Hitler was the Führer of historic National Socialism. The original mass movement based in Germany had a vertical hierarchy with Hitler on top. In contrast, the “NS” fandom is anarchic. There is no recognized leader or organizational structure. The German sense of order is completely absent from the phenomena. There are various wannabee führers like Commander Schoep who pop up from time to time who have tiny followings and who command no legitimacy even within the fandom.

3. Historic National Socialism was a viable political movement in Germany. The NSDAP was a political party like other political parties. It was the political vehicle of a faction in German society that competed with other factions for state power. It had a political program. It elected people all over Germany starting in Bavaria and spreading outwards. Hitler worked within the system to rise to power.

The “NS” fandom admires historic National Socialism, which was the original act, like other fans who admire Harry Potter, The Beatles or The Rolling Stones. In particular, the fandom loves the National Socialist aesthetic and cosplay, which has been adopted by fans like Marilyn Manson. The fans imitate the NSDAP by creating “parties” with members like the National Justice Party, but which are fake in that the vast majority of these “parties” do not bother to participate in the political system.

George Lincoln Rockwell, the founder of the American Nazi Party, ran for governor of Virginia in 1965 as an independent write in candidate and won 1% of the vote. Glenn Miller ran for U.S. Senate in Missouri. These are exceptions to the rule in the “NS” fandom. Generally speaking, the fans are content with belonging to “parties” which do not engage in political activity. The most striking difference is that many of the loudest voices in the fandom are quietists who advocate total political disengagement or even going so far as to advocate empowering the Left which was unthinkable to the original movement.

Can you imagine the original National Socialists endorsing and proudly voting for Kamala Harris? The historic National Socialist movement was intensely political. The fandom is anti-political and focuses on demoralizing and demobilizing Whites and losing at politics.

4. Historic National Socialism was intensely patriotic. It was a German nationalist movement that made maximalist claims on the territory of its neighbors. It was militant, chauvinist and jingoistic. It was essentially a Germanic supremacist movement which placed Nordics at the top of a racial hierarchy and which saw other Europeans as lesser races and non-Whites as even more inferior.

Many of the wignat fans couldn’t be more removed from historic National Socialism. These people are anti-patriotic. They despise their own country. They love foreigners and particularly Muslims and the Chinese. They do not romanticize the “volk” like historic National Socialists. Instead, they look down on them as “creekshitters” or “Rightoids” borrowing terms from Swann Marcus and the Chaposphere. They ignore everything the National Socialists believed about race too. Many of the biggest fans are black and brown Americans like Kanye West who would have been classified as Untermenschen.

5. Historic National Socialism was animated by lots of things, not merely antisemitism, like German volkish ideology, anti-communism, fear of the Left, resentment over the loss of territory and Hitler’s vision of eastward expansion. This is what led to conflict with the Allied powers.

The “NS” fandom is mostly non-German though and doesn’t care about these things. They are not interested in the injustice of Germany’s present day borders or volkish ideology or German colonization of Ukraine. The fandom just isn’t animated by the same things. Unlike the historic National Socialists, who were parochial “petty nationalists,” the fandom wants to “tell the truth” about the history. It attracts history spergs who like Civil War buffs or Trekkies love to master the lore and the canon. The fandom is attracted to the National Socialist aesthetic because it is the bogeyman and can be used to shock liberals. The same impulse to “shock the bourgeoisie” animated the avant garde.

6. The “NS” fandom is intensely focused on anti-Zionism which is hilarious in that the historic National Socialist movement facilitated the transfer of European Jews to Palestine.

7. The role played by antisemitism was different in historic National Socialism and in the “NS” fandom. Kristallnacht, for example, didn’t happen until 1938. This was years after Hitler came to power. Hitler focused on the German economy, rearmament and territorial grievances.

Whereas the fandom wants to focus exclusively on “antisemitism” and endlessly drone on about Jews like a broken record because “nothing else matters,” Hitler addressed the priorities of his supporters like the economy. Hitler wasn’t a crank. Hitler’s views of Jews did not cause him to write off “the System” and give up on politics. He was a gifted speaker who was very successful at politics. He worked with conservatives. He had Christian supporters. He trimmed his sails in the Night of the Long Knives.

The original National Socialists participated in politics and wielded power against Jews. The “NS” fandom abandons the political field to the Jews and yearns for Jews to wield power against Whites.

8. As I understand it, historic National Socialism is like a custom made suit tailored to the German ethnicity, culture, organic historical experience and intellectual climate. It makes no sense at all without Germans. It is not a universalist ideology that can be tried on like an ill fitting pair of pants. My brother-in-law is of German descent and anyone who knows Germans knows how they are. The original National Socialists understood that National Socialism cannot be done without the German race-soul.

9. The “NS” fandom seems to engage everything but participation in politics – fantasy, entertainment, comedy, talk radio, historical revisionism, End Times prophecies about “The Collapse.” I can think of fans with shows who remind me of Michael Witzigmann in Look Who’s Back. None of the “NS” fans reminds me of anything that I have watched or read about the Third Reich.

10. Historic National Socialism attracted winners.

Love him or hate him, Hitler was one of the Great Men of history.

The “NS” fandom attracts of legions of losers, outcasts and dysfunctional people. It is suffused with a loser mentality about everything. This is a key difference. The fans are losers at politics and losers at relationships and will talk your head off for hours about both subjects. The bitter hatred of White women that you find among the incels who are “NS” fans is foreign to National Socialism. I don’t know how else to describe it except to say that an aura of negativity and misery emanates from the fandom.

The “NS” fandom has podcasts and shows which remind me of End Times televangelists. Just as the televangelists interpret current events through the lens of the Book of Revelation, loserpilled “NS” fans do the same thing except they react to current events and interpret everything that happens after the fact as a Jewish plot and victory and a defeat of White people. In Trump’s first term, Q deciphered the plan for faithful, plan trusting Trump supporters. JewAnon does the same thing for “NS” fans replacing the will of God with all-powerful Jewish plots thereby crippling the will of activists to do anything. There are people in the “NS” fandom who are also dumb enough to consume and swallow this shit.

It would be one thing if “NS” fans were merely criticizing Donald Trump who is a politician with all sorts of flaws. Having a loser mentality is not one of them. Trump has amazing ability to power through. These people have developed such a strong loser belief system though that they don’t get off the couch to attempt to advance their own ideology. As they say, “there is no political solution.” Along with black and brown Americans, losers have become a large and loud part of the “NS” fan base.

To put a bow on this discussion, there is a conceit in the “NS” fandom that as fans they are somehow like the historic National Socialist movement in Germany in the 1930s, but I don’t see it. They are leaderless, disorganized, content consumers who are scattered across the world. They are not German. They are not patriotic. Many of them are not even White. They have accepted their status as losers.

If Hitler were to return tomorrow and see his fans, he would probably agree with me that the “NS” fandom is an obstacle to doing anything. He wouldn’t be surprised that these people haven’t succeeded at politics. These people would surely tell him things like “there is no political solution” and we ought to do nothing but live vicariously through Arabs while waiting for the collapse of civilization.

Source: https://occidentaldissent.com/2025/03/10/loser-pilled/